How could we tell if a computer or other entity is conscious? ?
If a supercomputer or alien device appears conscious, how can we tell if it really is conscious or if it is just following a sophisticated program?
How can we know if Data or Hal or C3PO are conscious (if they were real)?
- Anonymous1 month ago
This probably isn’t the answer you’re looking for but in a way if you give enough power to a computer and you devote enough of your life and energy to it, it becomes an extension of your consciousness in a sense. So in a sense you might say you’ve imbued it with consciousness.... your own. . Again, probably not what you’re looking for but a philosophical way to look at it maybe
- grey_wormsLv 71 month ago
- RajaLv 72 months ago
Computers work only according to the programs. Whatever the computer is, it is not conscious and cannot be conscious because a consciousness is a spirit. Spirits can use any kind of sound and communicate with the human beings. It can use the sound of vibrations of a machine, audio and video sounds etc. They can change the words of songs and dialogues. This is happening everyday in my life.
Spirits are everywhere. There is no place without spirits and no human being lives without the possession of the spirits. Spirits are separate elements. A human being during his/her lifetime is living with many spirits which have joined one by one since birth. They are knowledge, skills, feelings, emotions, interests and everything. These spirits are your consciousnesses and memories. Even thoughts are not your own. For example, when you want to take a decision on a subject, one after another the spirits think and you just listen, choose or reject the ideas which they transmit to your mind through your brain in the form of thoughts. Brain is just a media to connect the spirits to your mind. A mind is just a computer's mind. A mind is you. After the destruction of a computer completely you will not get it's mind. The same is the case with the human beings. A human being doesn't have a spiritual body. Soul is nothing but an energy needed for the functionality of a body. It is not a spirit or anything else. A body's functionality is based on the auto mechanism. After death all spirits which accompanied a person quit and go to different places searching new bodies. No one lives in any form after death. All human beings are just robots made of flesh and bones and toys of the spirits for their games.
- tizzoseddyLv 62 months ago
I guess we'll just have to chat awhile, and take our best guess. I would ask, "Are you conscious? What makes you think so? What does consciousness mean to you?", and follow that wherever it interested me.
By the way, I don't think a lot of people are particularly conscious.
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- JORGE NLv 72 months ago
Carbon intelligence is pretty good but silicon intelligence may take over from there. It may be better. Lot's better. So much so that we may be in the presence of a higher intelligence. One that uses us until we are no longer useful.
- PLv 72 months ago
Many already are in as much as they are "aware" and reactive to their surroundings, but in a limited way. In the deeper sense, if it were conscious you couldn't tell.
It all hinges on your definitions. Self awareness, intelligence, and conscious are not the same as being alive
- Josh AlfredLv 52 months ago
Consciousness, at a fundamental level is recognition. If an entity can recognize something, it is aware. Self-awareness requires recognition of your own physical existence. Sentience requires a notion that you exist or have being, a recognition of yourself as existing, as in "I am x." Intelligence requires manipulation of your environment, body or mind. Self-improving AI will inevitably reach sentient levels, as well as apex levels of intelligence. If you can ask a computer a question where it must use recognition to answer, than you have proven that it is base-line conscious; as in the question, "Do you know who I am?"
- peter mLv 62 months ago
An excellent question Jeffrey.
I think if they passed the "Jeffrey test" then likely a computer would
not be conscious so to speak^.
An obvious follow-on would be to let-us-know when that isn't the case,
although it may take you a lot longer to disprove than someone else.
.^ by chance came across this lecture by someone called Vint Cerf.
It is called "How could we tell if a computer or other entity is conscious?"
I am assuming that he/they distinguish between the computer and other
entity. About 13 minutes in VC talks of the AlphaGo & AlphaZero computer
programmes designed to play the game "Go", a mainly eastern culture board game which has I believe more possible combinations to play than any other popular
game. (One on Youtube where it beat a Human "Grandmaster" Lee sidol).
The newer of the two "AlphaZero" was taught by being told-to-play-against
itself, where AlphaGo was not. As I understand it AlphaZero LEARNED
QUICKER & when tried against the former performed MUCH BETTER so
We should also see how "easy" it is apparently to build a programme like
these but HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO EXPLAIN IT'S Workings... I mean
like when they played & won FOR THE FIRST TIME as they did against
the human Grandmaster. Although the lecturer VC describing how-the
computer-played & learned the game "GO" described that as "the computer
WAS TOLD TO PLAY AGAINST ITSELF (= & this it did Learning the game
"GO" in double quick time..).
I am sceptical that THE OR ANY DESCRIPTION of the working of the
programme -especially one as complex as the programme used in the
above board game- is SO WORDY that it would be useless by itself
as a human-type-behaviour - "Go play against yourself" - instruction.
I am NOT saying that they cannot be EQUIVALENT... patently they are ;
but I am saying is that it sure looks like it's undesirable & unnecessary
to WRITE IN COMPUTER SPEAK WHAT WAS DONE in the computer
programme to make the computer learn-to-play-the-Game.
- Pearl LLv 72 months ago
theres no way it could be conscious so i wouldnt worry about it
- j153eLv 72 months ago
As AI increases in ability to self-instruct, such "consciousness" will pass the Turing test, and will be indiscernible to humankind.